Peter David Takes Down Bill Maher The Best Way A Writer Could

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Comedian Bill Maher was at it again Friday night trying to tear down the medium of comic books as childish and informing the world to grow up. Last year, Maher used the death of Stan Lee to pen three paragraphs poking fun at the fans who enjoyed and appreciated Lee’s work.

“I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to suggest that Donald Trump could only get elected in a country that thinks comic books are important,” said Maher.

The problem with Maher’s comments this week and last year are they don’t come from a place of fact. They are designed for a cheap laugh and to ruffle feathers. He’s acting more like Trump than the fanbase he’s attacking.

One positive that has come out of this is that a very talented writer penned his own opinion article on the subject and knocked it out the park. Peter David posted to his Facebook on Saturday a statement that defends the medium and puts everything into perspective.

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Check out the statement below:

“Bill Maher has informed us, both on Twitter and again last night, that comic books are for kids and that fans of them are basically stunted individuals who are unable to accept adulthood.
So let’s talk about fans.

Fans love to argue. They are particularly big on arguing who their heroes can defeat. And periodically they gather in large crowds, sometimes numbering over 50,000. They pay ridiculous entry fees to get in, and many of them dress up like their favorites. In the places where they gather, they cheer on their respective faves, chant together, eat and hang together. They buy a ton of merchandise, dropping hundreds of dollars at a time. And if they’re lucky, they get autographs and go home happy. Hell, on rare occasions they even attend parades dedicated to their heroes.

And that’s just Mets fans.

It’s also Yankees fans, and Phillies fans, and Dodgers fans, and Jets and Giants fans, and Knicks fans, and so on throughout the country.

Hell, Bill Maher even profits off it, since he bought a minority share of the Mets in 2012.

And all these games…they involve balls. Isn’t that interesting? Large ones, small ones, that get bounced or hit or thrown. Balls, which are–as you know–one of the favorite toys of babies.

Yet interestingly no one, not even the profiting Bill Maher, ever accuses sports fans of being juvenile. Of being overgrown children. Get a whole bar riled up about Yankees versus Red Sox and no one is going to say, “My God, grow the hell up.”

That’s because, as Neil Gaiman pointed out, if you have stories told via words alone, that’s books and the realm of adults. Have pictures by themselves and that’s art, and also for adults. But the moment you combine words and pictures, assholes believe that that makes it entertainment purely for children.

I’ve said this before but it bears repeating: comic books aren’t juvenilia. Comic books are modern myths. The definition of a myth is something that is defined within its own essence. If you ask someone, “Who is Gomez Addams?” they will reply, “He’s a character created by cartoonist Charles Addams.” IF you say, “Who is Superman?” people will likely respond, “He’s a superhero, the last son of Krypton, with the secret identity of Clark Kent.” In the same way that if you ask who Hercules is, you’ll be told that he is a half-god born of Zeus having an affair with a mortal. You don’t put it in context of its creation; you define it as itself. People who find Spider-Man fascinating are just as valid and adult in their interests as someone who studies Arthurian legend. The fact that it’s happening in modern time and we know who the creators are doesn’t make it any less mythic.

Nor is the multi-billion dollar success of their movies proof of their crossover appeal, according to Maher. “They’re all the same!” he declares, asserting that ALL comic book movies are about superheroes fighting over “glowy” things (like athletes fighting over a ball, remember.). The short answer is, Yeah, right, “Black Panther” is just like “Wonder Woman” (neither of which involved anything glowing.). The longer answer is, Yeah, right, super heroes fighting over glowing things is sure an accurate description of Men in Black. Or Road to Perdition.. Or Kingsmen. Or V for Vendetta. Or From Hell. Or 300, Sin City, American Splendor, Atomic Blonde, Ghost World,Dredd, Scott Pilgrim vs the World, and on and on.

BUT, Maher further asserts, comics aren’t literature. Well, let’s figure that out. The dictionary definition of literature is: written works, especially those considered of superior or lasting artistic merit. So what’s lasting merit? It seems reasonable to assume that it’s obvious: something that lasts. That transcends generations. So since Action Comics #1, which was produced over eighty years ago, still has resonance, that would seem to satisfy the definition, as does Spider-Man who was created fifty-five years ago. But perhaps it’s deeper than that. Perhaps to be literature, it must be critically acclaimed. Like Watchmen was when it won the Hugo. Like Sandman when it won the Bram Stoker award. Like Maus was when it won the Pulitzer.

How many Pulitzers do you have on your shelf, Bill?

I’m not pissed off with Maher because he went off on a rant about fans. God knows I’ve done that myself. I’m pissed off because he went off on a rant that was factually wrong, demonstrably inaccurate, and incredibly unfair. His words come from ignorance, and I wish to God he would do something, anything, to educate himself.”


What do you think of David’s statement? Comment below with your thoughts.

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Matthew Sardo
As the founder of Monkeys Fighting Robots, I'm currently training for my next job as an astronaut cowboy. Reformed hockey goon, comic book store owner, video store clerk, an extra in 'Transformers: Dark of the Moon,' 'Welcome Back Freshman,' and for one special day, I was a Ghostbuster.

15 COMMENTS

  1. Who gives a shit what Bill Maher thinks, he’s just a shitty talk show host, and his views on the world are a joke at best lol!

  2. “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

  3. I find it quite the phenomenon in this country that throughout life the intelligent are vilified while the elements of strength and wealth are celebrated. Nothing wrong with strength, nothing wrong with wealth.But then again, nothing wrong with intelligence, either. Yet we see in schools that the smart kids are called geeks and spurned and bullied by the stronger athletic set and the privileged set of higher wealth in the school. In later life we as a society value those who can pretend well (actors) and those who can get a ball from one place to another far more highly than we value school teachers, firefighters, and police officers. Again, nothing at all wrong with being an athlete or an actor, but why is America so down on being smart and contributing to your society’s well being? We struggle to get funding for schools and for medical and scientific research while we pay athletes and actors millions. In comics we have a combination of art and reading. Putting down those who have the intelligence to understand and enjoy the ten dollar words and the graphic arts of comic books is just another link in the chain of vilifying intelligence.

  4. Interesting once again proving people are judgemental though he could have left the common out about like Trump again judgemental…live and let live within the polite , common courtesy that use to be expected and required of adults. Bill Maher’s opinion is just that, so unless he holds a importance in your life who cares what he thinks. Enjoy your hobby.

  5. That’s what bothered me, too, was the entire rant was from ignorance, which he has pointed out on his show endless times, is the wrong stance to take.
    Are comic books literature? The man didn’t even bother to find out. He worked on his own presumptions. He could have easily googled “comic book literary awards” and gotten a quick insight into the world of literature. Comic book wins a Hugo? Hugo changed the rules for a while to stop that from happening again.
    But it’s even worse.
    He equated comic books to the “children’s section” of the industry that used to do the exact same thing to him. Comedians were once the lowest form of entertainment. And now, with Bill’s help, they just may be again.

  6. I would hasten to also point out that Mahar promoted the comic book “March” on his show, a bio comic about the life of congressman John Lewis, which he didn’t call juvenile. Also wasn’t bill in iron man3?

  7. Kinda funny the man mocking marvel was cut from one their films. That’s right if you did not know bill maher was in iron man 3. But was cut from the movie. Maybe he is bitter. Google bill maher Ironman 3 and amwatch the video. Ironic. He tried to profit off of those he mocks.

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